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Important petition for maintaining the integrity of Science
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:00 am
by drsaikiranc
https://chng.it/cjcwp5WFZX
Guys, a lot of thought and work went into creating this petition. I think it is a need of the hour. Kindly read and sign if you agree.
Re: Important petition for maintaining the integrity of Science
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 6:15 pm
by AshvinP
drsaikiranc wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:00 am
https://chng.it/cjcwp5WFZX
Guys, a lot of thought and work went into creating this petition. I think it is a need of the hour. Kindly read and sign if you agree.
Hello,
This petition is simply based on ignorance of how living processes work from a phenomenological perspective, i.e. a perspective unencumbered by abstract assumptions and prejudices. They cannot be reduced to inorganic or man-made mechanisms. For further reading on the relevant distinctions, I recommend the following:
https://rsarchive.org/Books/GA001/Engli ... 1_c04.html
Steiner wrote:But matters were different, up until Goethe, with respect to the phenomena of the organic world. In the case of an organism, sense-perceptible factors appear—form, size, colour, warmth conditions of an organ, for example—that are not determined by factors of the same kind. One cannot say of the plant, for example, that the size, form, location, etc., of the roots determine the sense-perceptible factors of the leaf or blossom. A body for which this were the case would not be an organism but rather a machine. It must be admitted that all the sense-perceptible factors of a living being do not manifest as a result of other sense-perceptible factors,32 as is the case with inorganic nature. On the contrary, in an organism, all sense-perceptible qualities manifest as the result of a factor that is no longer sense-perceptible. They manifest as the result of a higher unity hovering over the sense-perceptible processes. It is not the shape of the root which determines that of the trunk, nor the trunk's shape which determines that of the leaf, and so on, rather, all these forms are determined by something standing over them that itself is not again a form observable by the senses; these forms do exist for one another, but not as a result of one another. They do not mutually determine one another, but rather are all determined by something else. Here we cannot trace what we perceive with our senses back to other sense-perceptible factors; we must take up, into the concept of the processes, elements that do not belong to the world of the senses; we must go out of and beyond the sense world. Observation no longer suffices; we must grasp the unity conceptually if we want to explain the phenomena.
Needless to say, I doubt anyone here will be signing
Re: Important petition for maintaining the integrity of Science
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 6:57 pm
by Federica
drsaikiranc wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 1:00 am
https://chng.it/cjcwp5WFZX
Guys, a lot of thought and work went into creating this petition. I think it is a need of the hour. Kindly read and sign if you agree.
What is the long term aim of a definition of "living" restricted to only humans and animals - why is it needed?
In other words, if it came to be recognized, what would that enable?