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Re: Dissolving Nature and Culture:Indigenous Perspectivism in Political Ecology
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:31 pm
by SanteriSatama
I would say that colonialism is extremely local, as it has rather weak relation with non-local, multinaturalism and richer forms of time. The nature of colonialism is imposed by the coevolution relation that defines permanent agriculture. Couple annual hay plants using their human servants as tools to clear them more lebensraum, as their weapons in their 4ever war against forest. And bread is oh so yummy yummy, so nice with cheese and wine!
Re: Dissolving Nature and Culture:Indigenous Perspectivism in Political Ecology
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:48 pm
by Soul_of_Shu
For me she's a friend, a fellow human being with the very endless wardrobe.
For Shu
S/he is Lila dressed up as Maya like some alluring paramour of the oldest, indeed beginingless, vocation.
Re: Dissolving Nature and Culture:Indigenous Perspectivism in Political Ecology
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:56 pm
by Lou Gold
SanteriSatama wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:31 pm
I would say that colonialism is extremely local, as it has rather weak relation with non-local, multinaturalism and richer forms of time. The nature of colonialism is imposed by the coevolution relation that defines permanent agriculture. Couple annual hay plants using their human servants as tools to clear them more lebensraum, as their weapons in their 4ever war against forest. And bread is oh so yummy yummy, so nice with cheese and wine!
Take a look at
Against the Grain. It's not about permanent agriculture, which also existed in Central Amazônia, but about cereal grain agriculture (and granaries), especially in locations of strong seasonal variation.
Re: Dissolving Nature and Culture:Indigenous Perspectivism in Political Ecology
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:39 pm
by SanteriSatama
Lou Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:56 pm
Take a look at
Against the Grain. It's not about permanent agriculture, which also existed in Central Amazônia, but about cereal grain agriculture (and granaries), especially in locations of strong seasonal variation.
I believe I mentioned "annual hay plants" in the comment you commented. Terra preta is a chapter of it's own.
Re: Dissolving Nature and Culture:Indigenous Perspectivism in Political Ecology
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
by Lou Gold
SanteriSatama wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:39 pm
Lou Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:56 pm
Take a look at
Against the Grain. It's not about permanent agriculture, which also existed in Central Amazônia, but about cereal grain agriculture (and granaries), especially in locations of strong seasonal variation.
I believe I mentioned "annual hay plants" in the comment you commented. Terra preta is a chapter of it's own.
Yep. (We don't use the term 'hay plants') I just want to stress that it's not only about agriculture and settling down. The city-state/colonial-conquest pattern emerged from certain places/qualities. Manioc/Cassava does not require granaries. On a somewhat parallel theme of eco-context, are you familiar with
Cannibals and Kings?
Re: Dissolving Nature and Culture:Indigenous Perspectivism in Political Ecology
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:02 pm
by SanteriSatama
Lou Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
(We don't use the term 'hay plants')
What term do you use? I'm speaking in gardener jargon, I guess.
No. And I'm boycoting Amazon.
Re: Dissolving Nature and Culture:Indigenous Perspectivism in Political Ecology
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:32 pm
by Lou Gold
SanteriSatama wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:02 pm
Lou Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
(We don't use the term 'hay plants')
What term do you use? I'm speaking in gardener jargon, I guess.
I believe 'hay' refers to grasses. The human foodstuff term in English is 'grains'.
No. And I'm boycoting Amazon.
Here is the
wiki summary
Re: Dissolving Nature and Culture:Indigenous Perspectivism in Political Ecology
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:44 pm
by SanteriSatama
I think it's about time to start leaving that old linear narrative at rest. Waiting for the posthumous book by Graeber.
Re: Dissolving Nature and Culture:Indigenous Perspectivism in Political Ecology
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:09 pm
by Lou Gold
SanteriSatama wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:44 pm
I think it's about time to start leaving that old linear narrative at rest. Waiting for the posthumous book by Graeber.
What's the non-linear version of evolution?
Re: Dissolving Nature and Culture:Indigenous Perspectivism in Political Ecology
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:31 pm
by SanteriSatama
Lou Gold wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:09 pm
What's the non-linear version of evolution?
There's been civilizations before this holocene, we don't know what they were like as they got drowned under the great flood; there's been parallel civilizations of many kinds, some of them just abandoned as people didn't like it. There are other natures with their own civilizations. Loads of weird and unknown.
